Italian Politician Parades pig on Mosque Site...

Non-violent resistance, Muslims should take note....

Italy's former deputy education minister has provoked a scandal by parading a pig, an impure animal for Muslims, on the site of a planned mosque in the country's north, news reports said Sunday.

"We have 'blessed' the ground that the Padua authorities want to transfer for the mosque," said Mariella Mazzetto, a member of the populist right-wing Northern League party in the city.

She walked the pig on a lead accompanied by about 10 party members, Italian daily newspapers reported.

The leader of the Northern League in the Italian parliament, Roberto Maroni, commented that "the battle in Padua was justified in its intentions, but in its methods, we need initiatives that make people sympathize, this one was wrong."

He claimed however that every four days a new mosque was built in Italy.

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Comments

[Elric66]

Let the seething begin.

[Zip]

Elric, I knew you would like this one

[Elric66]

Hopefully we will see it here as well. :-)

[Evil LIberal Troll]

Well, that should get Mazetto some brownie points with the Northern League, huh?

It's as lame as our celebrities using the war to fund their own left-wing machinations. Mazetto knows there's no danger, becasue the Muslim population is too small to have any kind of effective voice.

And even if there is some kind fo violent incident by the Muslims, she gets to use the incident, and whatever harm it does, to further fuel her own ends.

Picking on a minority for personal political ends . . . Mussolini would be proud.

[JDAM]

ELT

"every four days a new mosque was built in Italy"

With Europe's birth-rate in the +1 to -1% growth range and their booming Muslim population (both new birth and new immigrants), they are fighting for their heritage.

[Elric66]

"Muslim population is too small to have any kind of effective voice."

For now

"Picking on a minority for personal political ends"

Wait until they are a large minority or a majority. It will be ugly like everywhere else you see a sizable Muslim population.

[Elric66]

JDAM,

"they are fighting for their heritage."

But thats fascist. Just ask LGF.

[R_not]

You watch - the muslims will behave as if they are the ones being tortured, raped, kidnapped, and killed - just this little pig will bring out all their wailing and whining that they are the victims - when they are not.

[Evil Liberal Troll]

The best defense is a strong offense. How can you have offense culturally?

By making sure your culture aspires to be the best, having a culture that thinks to the future, not one that closes itself in stagnation, lashing out at another culture.

The people will understand how backward islam can be when faced with a bright, shining future. For America, I think one of its greaest visionaries was Ronald Regan. He wanted America to be the shining city on a hill, a point fo inpiration for others to look up to. Other cultures will adapt themselves, and their heritage, because they woudl see the benefits that shinig city would bring upon its people.

Tolerance is not a way to give up, its a way to short circut the bad guys, its a way to exemplify everything that is best in humanity, and provide an example to others.

Of course, Regan and myself would argue vehemently regarding teh socio-economin methodology to acheive such a shining city, but in spirit, we had the same goal.

The italians may be digging in to protect their heritiage, but in doing so, the pig is also a symbol of what the italitans are becoming, morphing and limiting themselves until all the see is what they hate.

Is it fascist to do this? No.

Does it cater to the worst in human nature? Yes.

[Elric66]

"The people will understand how backward islam can be when faced with a bright, shining future."

You really believe that? If you do, you truly do not understand Islam.

[Evil Liberal Troll]

I cannot understand any system of beliefs that place focus on an afterlife as opposed to this life, nor can I relate to any ideology that isn't necessarily self-serving toward your own standard of living, and the standard of living of your neighbors. I cannot understand any ideology that believes a nation-state is anything but a tool to provide goals and properity toward its people.

People who think that way are poor, uneducated, chauvanistic, and without any hope that human beings can be anything decent in this life. They lash out from ignorance, and the repitition of "moral truths" for which there is no counterpoint. Those are teh people that convert to Islam.

On teh other hand, do you honestly believe that an educated, reasonnig person who has gained the fruits of their own labor all their life, and has always been able to provide plenty for their family, one who experience equity and equality, one who has never been morally coerced by their culture at any point of their lives . . . you believe that this reasoning person will encounter Islam for the first time, and suddenly convert, ginving up everything they have to slap around their women and wage jihad upon the West?

I don't think so.

[Elric66]

Yes I do

Can anyone say "Cat Stevens"?

[Evil Liberal Troll]

Cat Stevens is rich. Karrem Abdul Jabar is rich. Furthermore, their livlihoods as entertainers and atheleetes require a relationship with free trade, the "evil" West.

They're not giving up a damn thing, and you'll never see them or their children strap a bomb to their chest, or mutilate teh genetalia of their women.

Those examples are completely different, and you know it.

[Evil Liberal Troll]

Damn. I forgot Mohammod Ali!

:)

[Elric66]

Osama is rich, whats your point?

The jihadist doctors in the UK are rich.

The Saudi family is friggin rich. So what? You cant be rich and side with jihad?

[Evil Liberal Troll]

That's right, you can't side with jihad. But you can create jihad.

Excessive wealth is a different animal all together. Excessive wealth creates jihadist movements, it uses the lower class for its own aims. The wealthy "jihadists" are the Rosie O'Donnels of the fundi Islam movements, using their wealth for themselves, digging into the means of production, trying to keep the people under their control.

Can you come up with an exception to this? Osama's a good one. He gave up alot to be against the West. But his money, even the fact that he gave it us, is a tool used to influecnce others to do his bidding. The money gave him a voice.

When I'm talking about Islam, I'm not talkign about money, I'm talking about millions of people.

Yes the material condition of a communtity, and teh individuals living within it, DIRECTLY relates to their suceptability to Islam, or any other dogmatic focus.

[Elric66]

Yes, that would explain why Europe will be Islamic in a generation or 2. Because the West offers than opportunities and yet they choose the Ummah over freedom and opportunities.

And yes money gave OBL a voice but what REALLY gave him a voice was the Qur'an, the hadiths and 1400 years of Islamic history.

If you are willing to take the chance that Muslims will moderate in the West. more power to you. Me, I will go by the facts of what Islam is and has done since it was spawned.

Oh amd money is no big thing in the jihadist movement. 9-11 cost I believe around 50 grand to pull off. Terror is cheap.

[Evil Liberal Troll]

"Yes, that would explain why Europe will be Islamic in a generation or 2. Because the West offers than opportunities and yet they choose the Ummah over freedom and opportunities."

This is a completely unfounded statement. However, if they experience serious economic decline in their standard of living and no longer receive any benefits through/by western thought, then sure, I could see it. But to make such a prediction is sheer balderdash. Elric66, this is the first "sip-the-Kool-aid moment" I've seen from one of your posts.

"And yes money gave OBL a voice but what REALLY gave him a voice was the Qur'an, the hadiths and 1400 years of Islamic history."

Yup, generation after generation of poor, stupid nomadic herders who used to kill each other over water. Such is the economic background associated with historic villany of this scale.

"Oh amd money is no big thing in the jihadist movement. 9-11 cost I believe around 50 grand to pull off. Terror is cheap."

I agree. You just have to convince people to kill themselves, and that they'll have a truckload of virgins waiting for them in heaven. . . . How this nonesense gets passed from generation to generation is beyond me. . . . wait, no it isn't . . .

It's Poverty.

[the Boodge]

Islamic Jihad and liberalism go hand in hand: brainwashing of idiots for power!

[Evil Liberal Troll]

Oh?

We'll in that case, discussion over! :)

[John]

I just want to be there as the knife slices through Evil Liberal Trolls neck, and the jihadists chant verses from the koran (you know, the ones commanding them to chop off heads)Oh the irony.
Actually I don't mind that libtards are blind, narcissistic cretins. Just don't try and drag me off the cliff into an islamic abyss with you, ok?

[Elric66]

Shall I pull up the polls where Muslims say they support Sharia law over democracy. You know, the Muslims like in Europe who are given freedom and opportunity?

[Elric66]

"It's Poverty."

Most assine excuse I have ever heard to excuse Islamic terrorism.

[Mike]

Poverty? Ha. Poverty has nothing to do with it. Islamic terrorism is entirely backed up by the doctrine. The Qu'ran is the the only book in the three abrahamic faiths that gives an explicit ok to universal violence against nonbelievers. But keep on believing in the delusion that muslims are ok and will integrate into whatever societies they move into. Liberalism is such a mental disorder, it makes me sick.

[Elric66]

Mike,

If it was poverty, then you would see poor people of all faiths blowing themselves up. He just cant bring himself to admit that maybe Islam is a danger to society.